Is wordtracker accurate?

[vebo]

I did a ton of research on wordtracker and one of the keywords my co used in the past shows 0 searches in 90 days. Management says that wordtracker cannot be accurate because they have done google searches using that keyword. How can I explain this to them when I'm a little puzzled myself? I'm a big advocate of wordtracker but is it odd that a lot of our keywords are not even showing up in wordtracker's database? Please advise. No one likes bad news and I've been delivering bad news-I just want to be able to back up the research. Thanks.

[Andy]

If Wordtracker was no good then a lot of people would voice their concerns on the web. Your site ranking for keyword searches has nothing to do with Wordtracker.

But it seems like you are trying to use Black hat techniques to spam your searches into the WT DB.

[donecweb]

If Wordtracker was no good then a lot of people would voice their concerns on the web. Your site ranking for keyword searches has nothing to do with Wordtracker.

But it seems like you are trying to use Black hat techniques to spam your searches into the WT DB.

Andy, I have reread vebo's post over and over again and I don't understand your reply. I know beyond a doubt, I know nothing about Wordtracker but I don't see anything in the post referring to site ranking. I also see nothing to make me think there has been any attempt to use black hat techniques. Would you mind explaining your post so that I could understand it?

[Andy]

I know beyond a doubt, I know nothing about Wordtracker

- that's why what I posted doesn't make sense to you.

Wordtracker provides data that shows how many times a month various search terms are actually searched on in search engines. Webmasters use this service to find popular keywords. So if you want your company to show up as a popular keyword in the Wordtracker data, then you might be tempted to search on it's keywords yourself in search engines to artificially boost the popularity of your search terms.

I expect that Wordtracker will try and eliminate these fraudulent results by maybe checking the ip address and time frame of the searches.

Management says that wordtracker cannot be accurate because they have done google searches

- this implies that they do searches on their own keywords to try and push them into the Wordtracker database.

I don't see anything in the post referring to site ranking

Correct, my mistake.

[donecweb]

Thanks Andy.

[Andy]

You can try the Wordtracker keyword suggestion tool here:

http://www.winningformula.ws/KeyWordSuggestionTool/

[SensoVision]

Don, I wish to say that Andy is right telling about WordTracker although it's results shouldn't be applied to all search engines blindly, as data collected by it are coming from PPC search engines. If you wish to find out what key phrases are used on Google or Yahoo you may try Google Sandbox(which could be found if you have AdWords account), Yahoo also give idea what kind of terms are searched on their network although results are harder to interpret.

[donecweb]

Thanks Denis for the information. However! I am not that wound up in getting certain words being found by search engines or about how much traffic I get. I am more concerned with the content being what I want others to have and that searches that reach my site be relevant to what is there.

[SensoVision]

you've good point and I'm sure visitors of your site would appreciate this. Anyway I've shared this info so you and others would knew that there are other way to find out information about keywords than WordTracker.
BTW there is also tool available from Overture: http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/

i believe that if you ever need to find out such information it would be best to combine results which you may get from WordTracer, Google and Overture tools.

[Andy]

I don't think the Overture tool is available any more. Or the data is out of date.

[SensoVision]

it's available, just click on the link, but I'm really not sure about data is up to date... I guess it could be checked if compare results from tool available through Yahoo and see if data is correlating with results from there or not.

[Andy]

I am sure I heard that the data is old. One reason is because Overture PPC was taken over by Yahoo! and it no longer exists, it has been replaced by Yahoo! Search Marketing. So use the Overture tool with the caution that the data may not be accurate.

[joe12joe]

I did a ton of research on wordtracker and one of the keywords my co used in the past shows 0 searches in 90 days. Management says that wordtracker cannot be accurate because they have done google searches using that keyword. How can I explain this to them when I'm a little puzzled myself? I'm a big advocate of wordtracker but is it odd that a lot of our keywords are not even showing up in wordtracker's database? Please advise. No one likes bad news and I've been delivering bad news-I just want to be able to back up the research. Thanks.

This is black hat technique as Andy explained. It has no life, you must have got some results in the past but it can never last for very long. You must choose white hat seo technique to rank your keywords. This should be a lesson for all those who are still following black hat techniques to disguise search engine crawlers and rank their keywords. It wont last for long.