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« on: April 20, 2003, 11:04:09 AM »

I've heard alot of good comments regarding Macromedia's Dreamweaver site building tool.

Does anyone here use Site Build It!?, It's a website building tool that includes hosting and allows you to research profitable keywords, run a search engine optimization test, build beautiful graphics, automatically and periodically submit each page individually to the search engines, and it handles everything for you.

There is no required knowledge of HTML code, CGI script or javascript, all of this is handled automatically, all that is required is that you input the text information, (for example, paste in an article) and it is built right before your eyes.

I'm currently researching a few promising ideas using Site Build It's keyword research tool and plan to develop a few mini-sites in the near future, I don't have any experience using Dreamweaver but I have heard alot about it which makes me wonder if it stacks up well to Site Build It!.

So if there are any Site Build It! users out there, let me know,
and to Dreamweaver users, details on Site Build It! can be found at: http://www.smokesoft.net/sitebuildit.html . I'm interested to know if the two products are similar.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2003, 12:07:55 AM »

Hi again, I've check your posts and delete those dupes as one post is just enough and many topics could confuse our visitors.
as for HTML Editors discussion we already have it some time ago but one day it's just disappear so thanks for reminding about it, I try to recreate it here.
As for your program I think that there is no online HTML editor which could beat Dreamweaver by functionalty but I could be wrong...
as for this program you list I have several bad thoughts... first is because it's actually using autmatic submission the second is the way how they advertise themselves(but of course it's just my IMHOs). Also they don't give access to try what actually they buying... they put many promises but don't explain how it's work... and what actually user get... I think some screenshots could be placed there of interface and other things which become avaialble after you give your cash to them... so speaking shortly I don't like when company just put many words but not give any proofs or examples. Also you mention that you're researching some sites... can you show us previews as a demonstration of possibilities of this program or maybe you know sites which designed using this tool if so I would be curious to take a look.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2003, 12:28:40 AM »

Hi Phoenix,

Thanks for the response.

As I said, I have not had the opportunity to do any work
with Dreamweaver, but I can point you in the direction of a site built using Site Build It!. DJ TIPS AND TRICKS at: http://www.dj-tips-and-tricks.com is #5 on Yahoo and Google under the keyword 'DJ equipment'. I'm currently putting together a tutorial on the benefits of Site Build It! including a step-by-step walkthrough complete with screenshots of the various command features for the benefit of my newsletter subscribers, I'll keep you posted.
As far as Site Build It! not offering a 'trial before you buy' You're right,
That is the one shortcoming involved with purchasing however, they do try a to compensate by means of a 100% money back guarantee
which depending on personal opinion, can be as good or better than a trial period.
I appreciate your feedback and welcome any further questions.

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2003, 12:56:46 AM »

Adam I've check site you gave me and it's really have nice ranking but if you look closer you'll see that it's mainly come because it's listed into Yahoo Directory and DMOZ...
http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Music/DJs/Education/
http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Disc_Jockeys/
this already could give you good boost in ranking... also there are few quality sites have a links to it...
I have a question am I understand you right that when they mention about search engine submission they mean automatic submission and can you give us more details what kind of submission services it provide? as for getting to Yahoo or DMOZ I don't know any program which would do it for you... you can try free submission with Yahoo(or pay 300 USD) and maybe it even work as for DMOZ I never believe that there is program exist which could determine correctly catalog for the site and submit it there. so it was obviously was done by human whenever it was owner or SEO...
as for design of this site it's don't have nothing complicated IMHO... and there is no need to use any HTML editor as such page easily could be written by anyone who read basics of HTML or also it could be done by using some free HTML editor... so as for now you didn't convince me that I should spend such amount of cash on this program sorry Grin But I'm looking forward for your guide and hope to know more about features of Site Build... maybe it's really worth of money they ask for it but I doubt... especially because they ask yearly fee for it, so this program loose a charm of usual WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver, because it's enough to pay once for program and use it till the end of your life but this site ask for cash if you want to use them...
also I didn't read the terms but before registering domains through them check their policy to see who will obtain the rights on domain if deal would be cancelled or you will not pay for next year, be sure it will not go to this company(there is some hosting companies who give "free" domain and later take it from you) so it's good idea to read policy and small print before making such purchase.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2003, 02:51:24 AM »

Hello again Phoenix,

I again would like to thank you for helping me address some of the most important aspects of determining a top-notch web building tool.

In hopes of better determining where Site Build It! ranks next to Dreamweaver, I have found a link that should lay all further questions to rest.... one way or another.

You appear to have extensive knowledge of the Dreamweaver tool, which is exactly the audience I hoped to target for this survey.

You will find a complete explanation on Site Build It!, Including screenshots at: http://www.smokesoft.net/build-it-tour.html

If after taking the tour you prefer dreamweavers functionality, I will
score it; Dreamweaver 1 / Site Build It! 0

Let me know what you think?

Adam
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2003, 11:46:00 PM »

Yeah Ive seen that aeons ago
You mean they're still at it? Hmmm
I don't think there's a specific tool for webdev.. it all depends on what your site's all about.

You don't need a porsche to drive to market Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2003, 02:41:09 PM »

Hay Everyone,
   It appears to me that after looking at the information provided, although this seems like it has some merit it cannot be compared to Dreamweaver. I use Dreamweaver UltraDev and this “Site Build it” is not even close to the same tool. Can “Site Build it” script in 5 languages? What about Databases? Forums? Security or user authentication. As a web-developer I think the “Site Build it” product falls short of anything I would use. That being said I did find something’s of interest. I would probably recommend it to someone who wants a site and really doesn’t want to pay for its development and can’t do it them selves. Most of the customer sites look alike, I also question the wisdom of automatic SE submissions (this can be considered spamming by some SE’s) Anyways good luck with your project……… Cool
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2003, 06:29:40 PM »

Maybe you should consider comparing examples of the two. Personally, I think the actual graphics, design, and layout of sites created using Dreamweaver are much more 'professional' looking, not to mention, intriguing and expiremental.

Made using Macromedia Dreamweaver:
http://alphablox.com/

Made using Site Build It!:
http://www.jugglenow.com

I could compare over and over again, and I guarantee each time the results using Dreamweaver are much more impressive.

To be perfectly honest, I think I could make the sites I've seen with Site Build It! in Notepad alone.

They are NICE sites, don't get me wrong, but the actual outcome can't even compare to Dreamweaver.

I'll emphasize the fact, like Denis, this is my opinion. I can't actually TRY out the program either, so my response is merely objective.
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2003, 02:51:25 PM »

I agree, I have not seen anything about "Site Build it" that you can not get (plus more) from any of the other software packages....... Cool
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2003, 05:46:21 PM »

It's kind of expensive, too.

Adobe GoLive is also much better. It's a little less expensive than Dreamweaver, and $100 more than SBI. Unless, of course, you buy it off eBay Grin

If you use eBay, you can bid on the latest version of Adobe GoLive pretty cheap by clicking here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3606694846&category=4291

Or, you can just research it yourself, you can buy an older or newer version, it doesn't matter. You're still going to find yourself getting a better program than SBI (IMO) and you'll end up paying less as well.

You probably don't even want to purchase anything, I think this blab is pointless.... Oh well, just incase Roll Eyes

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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2003, 06:30:51 PM »

Hay,

Try Webmatrix if you dare, after all it is from Microsoft....... Cool
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2003, 09:35:55 AM »

lol i cant even post a comment on this guess i am a moron compared to u guys i cant seem to even make a counter without messing it up: ( but sooner or later ill get it right..and when i do  watch out  lmao  im tring to make my site alot better if u got ne ideas check this out and tell me what u think i can do right www.angelfire.com/me4/clan187  yeah its a game we play called starcraft but i like it i wanted some kind of flash intro or something but i cant figure that stuff out maybe someone on here can help me  im hopeing  see u guys around and thanks for reading this : ) Grin
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2003, 03:30:07 AM »

Hey ownage, I forget to say welcome in the other message.. So welcome!

*hint* Anyway, I would suggest you create your own topics concerning these requests so that responses can be more targeted. *hint*

BTW, not too shabby for supposively not knowing what you're doing. Your site is pretty decent looking, IMO. Wink
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2003, 06:14:47 AM »

lol thx i never said i didnt know nething just said  as far as flash intros + other things is my problem and my site lol i get bored and redo it everyday lol  u should check it in a week and see if it has changed lol ill take ur advice tho and see what i can make happen Later and thank  p.s  thanks for welcomeing me to the message board  Own
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2004, 06:26:41 PM »

hey i use dreamweaver ultra dev 4, and fireworks alot...love them both!
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