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« on: October 12, 2004, 04:59:04 AM »

hi all,


hopefully this is the right place to post this...

i am planning to sell of my old system and thinking of buying a new one...

so far i have found out that dell is the cheapest.....

this is what i am planning to buy....


8400 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 530 with HT Technology 3.0GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB)
Intel® 925X Chipset
Integrated Gigabit Ethernet
1Yr Limited Warranty with Next Business Day Onsite Service
1GB(2x512) NECC Dual Channel DDR2 533Mhz SDRAM Memory
128MB PCIe™ x16 ATI Radeon™ X300 SE w/TV-Out & DVI (i think they mean the 9800XT series, is it any better then the 9600SE one??)
Dell™ Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse
17" Flat Panel LCD Monitor
160GB SATA (7200RPM) Hard Drive
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional (English)
DVD+RW/+R With CDRW Combo Drive
Sound Blaster® AudigyTM 2 Sound Card
Dell™ A425 stereo speakers with subwoofer (Australia)
56K PCI Data/Fax Modem
+ some other software and dial up connection package and standard warranties.....

they are ready to throw in the 5.1 surround, floppy drive and a extra optical drive for a discounted price as well...

now here is what i am asking your opinions on:

what do you guys think.. is this alright??? do i need to add anything else in there? i am already way past my budget and can spare another 50-100 dollars...

are dell systems any good... ?i do not wish to spend lots of money and then find out that i might have been ripped off Sad. really really confused about this....

has anyone had any experience with them? particularly dell australia??
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2004, 08:37:33 PM »

Hi ashishm6! I've never understand buying PC in the box, as some years ago when I was in UAE, I've nothing to do and calculate rates for PCs and components they were built from and difference in price scary me a bit, as you pay a lot for the name of the company like Dell or other Undecided from other side from what I know you got some kind of warranty and maybe it's better for you to throw all your problems on the head of service center instead in solving them(from my experience, support rarely give some good and useful information(which isn't already included in manual) so I try to avoid them and solve my problems on my own when possible), from other side we don't have any service centers here so I'm talking about experince with service centers located in other countries id UK, AU, USA. I would reccomend that if you could assemble your PC, just buy these components on your own and make PC you wan't and not the one which is offered by dealers.
don't sure if you need it and it would be helpful but here is my subjective view on the model of PC you've provided(it's only my IMHO so don't take it too serious Wink):

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8400 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 530 with HT Technology 3.0GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB)
personally I prefer AMD over Intel since in my opinion it provide better speed for less money. I'm also belive that by using more preciesive technology for printing their chips AMD they consume less power I judge about this because I've used two laptops which was Compaq Presario(don't remeber exact model, but it was AMD based) and Compaq Evo N1020v which is newer model and have 2.4GHz CPU comparing, if I'm not wron CPU of AMD was only 1.7(so of course this should be taken into account as well), anyway Intel based laptop run approx 2 hours on batteries when in the same time AMD one run about 4 hours or so(I was performing approx same tasks and use similar settings, so except of CPU there is not much difference I think)

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Intel® 925X Chipset
Integrated Gigabit Ethernet
I'm a bit afraid of on-board ethernet cards, not sure like networks are built in other countries, but here we got networks which don't really shielded from the factors like lightning, and after each huge rain our local shop get a lot of burned out motherboards, modems and ethernet cards(I've saw it myself and talk to my friends in this shop, we have small town here Wink ). So I've got feeling that if ethernet is built into motherboard it's not good idea to use it for something more than home net, as it's more likely that your motherboard would be damaged with the network adapter... but network card cost aroun 5 bucks and motherboard costs are much higher Undecided I've Nforce 2 based motherboard with integrated ethernet as well, but I use it for home network, and for network with my friends I've bought other network adapter which cost me around 4 bucks, I feel a bit safer this way, but during the rain I plug off my network cable anyway Smiley

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1Yr Limited Warranty with Next Business Day Onsite Service
and here is the warranty I was reffering to, actually from what I know usually you can get from 1 to 3 years on each device, depending of brand and company politics. So IMHO in some cases it's better to go for individual warranty as if e.g. ethernet would get burned you just replace it with another and there would be no need to wait for computer to travel to service center and back.

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1GB(2x512) NECC Dual Channel DDR2 533Mhz SDRAM Memory
sounds cool, and since I don't know what kind of activity you wish to perform on your PC, maybe it's good amount of memory or bad, for me 512 is more than enough, Linux is using around 200-250 and don't even try to use swap.
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128MB PCIe™ x16 ATI Radeon™ X300 SE w/TV-Out & DVI (i think they mean the 9800XT series, is it any better then the 9600SE one??)
I don't play game(at least those with demanding graphics, my current favourite game is MahJong for a long time, I still have GeForce MX400 and don't plan to upgrade it.)

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Dell™ Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse
from what I've heard(don't wish to try it myself now), wireless things are pain in the butt, if you use computer for 2-3 hours than it's ok, if not better prepeare to spend a bit of money for extra accumulators or have a battery pack near you, if you don't wish to stay cut off from the PC because power in your keyboard are drained.

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17" Flat Panel LCD Monitor
this is one of the things I dream of, another is DVD Burner Smiley LCD monitors is really cool(if you don't play a lot of games or don't have high demands, as all the models I've seend here still have a lot of inertia during fast movement on the screen), is there any information what brand or model of the monitor you get?

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160GB SATA (7200RPM) Hard Drive
I always wonder what brand is hidden behind this Smiley Afer few bad experience in the past I don't trust to certain brands and try to avoid them by all means, that's another reason why I don't like computers which is assembled by other companies.

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Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional (English)
hope that it's come as a bonus and no extra fee is included Smiley

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DVD+RW/+R With CDRW Combo Drive
and again, what brand is it? I really like to have DVD RW in my PC, but if you do small searc on the web you would see that certain models and brands have compatibility problems, e.g. disks burned on them is impossible to read on any other device, for me it's important factor...

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Sound Blaster® AudigyTM 2 Sound Card
Thanks God, I don't have demanding ears and I don't need to buy expensive equipment to enjoy my sound experience on PC, my on-board sound card is more than enough Smiley But I admit that Audigy is really cool thing, my friend have it in his PC, his room really filled with sounds, I wonder if how big the patience of his neighbours  Roll Eyes

Anyway I believe that Dell is good brand, I mostly do this conclusion from what I've read about their PDA devices. sorry if this info wasn't very useful for you.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2004, 05:57:31 AM »

dear sensovision,

thanks for replying... this helps a great deal....

i too was thinking of scrapping the wireless pack.... as far as warranty is concerned.. i plan to upgrade to 3 yrs.... but later.. when they have a special on it Cheesy

word of mouth is that monitor is a samsung.... rest i am not sure.. the thing with dell is ..they buy stuff from manufacturers and then brand it as their own to sell it.. so as you pointed out.. you never know what brand it is....
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2004, 10:52:27 PM »

glad to hear that it was a bit helpful. I really think that it's worth to assemble PC yourself, or if you don't sure strong enough to put all equipment yourself I think that for small fee(I was offered to assemble my PC for 10$ but refused as want to do it myself) someone in the shop would do it for you.
As for Samsung I like their monitors and using one myself (SyncMaster 750ST) but I do not pay trust to the rest of devices made by this company, e.g. I had a friend who reparing mobile phones, and most of Samsung models doesn't seems as a most reliable device when I'm visiting his office  Tongue
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