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« on: March 09, 2004, 01:38:17 AM »

I found this website with news about the death of altavista and alltheweb on it and wanted to know what everyone thinks about this :-
http://pandia.com/sw-2004/08-yahoo.html

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Yahoo! will end the development of the AltaVista and AlltheWeb search engines, but will keep the sites.
Yahoo! did need a search engine. Yahoo! had found that searchers preferred regular search engine results to hand picked directory listings. Regular search results at the Yahoo! site was therefore delivered by Google. As a long term strategy it does not make sense to rely on your main competitor in this way.

Yahoo! clearly needed an alternative, and bought the three search engines. However, as Pandia pointed out at the time, it would make no sense for Yahoo! to keep three different development teams developing three different search engines.

The costs would be enormous, and it would make more sense to try to merge the competences acquired, even if there were cultural differences and geographical distances (The AlltheWeb team is in Norway).

Overture had already started integrating the development teams of old timer AltaVista and the Norwegian AlltheWeb search engine. It is now clear that Yahoo! decided to go one step further, and replace the old search engines with a brand new one: the Yahoo! search engine.

In February Yahoo! replaced Google with the new search engine at their own Yahoo! portal. The new search engine showed great similarities with the old Inktomi search engine, as many of the listings where the same.

The search engine algorithm -- i.e. the process that decide the order of search results -- was new, however, and the fact that Yahoo! sent out a new search engine robot crawling the Net for sites and pages proved that Yahoo! was indeed building a new search engine.

Yahoo! had been criticized for sticking to Google for too long. It now, appears that they had been biding their time, testing the new search technology. It would have been suicide for Yahoo! to launch a search service that did not deliver the quality their users have come to expect. Google has proved, once and for all, that the quality and relevance of search results is essential for success in this market.

So what will happen to the old search engines? We have had our doubts about the quality of the Inktomi search engine. By all means, it could deliver decent results, but has been plagued by spam and irrelevant listings.

AltaVista, once the king of the hill, continues to deliver good results, even if the database is a bit small. AlltheWeb, on the other hand, has proved itself worthy as Google's match, both as regards relevance and scope.

It is therefore with a certain sadness we have to announce that the AltaVista and AlltheWeb search engines are going to die. In the near future Yahoo! will replace these unique search engines with data from the new Yahoo! search engine.

Yahoo! will keep the two sites as experimental portals. Hence there will be differences as regards the support for advanced searching etc. But the core technology will be new.

The Inktomi search engine never had its own portal. It now delivers data to sites like MSN and HotBot. Whether it also will be replaced by Yahoo! search is unclear at the moment, but most likely.

Was this really necessary? Did Yahoo! need three search engines in order to develop a new one?

Probably not. We guess the original plan was to develop Inktomi into the new "Google killer". Yahoo! soon realized, however, that they also needed a third service, in addition to the old Yahoo! directory and the new Yahoo! search engine -- a service that could bring in real money.

They therefore bought Overture, the most important pay-per-click text ad search engine in the world. As an added bonus they got AlltheWeb and AltaVista and a lot of clever search programmers and marketers.

By doing so, they also stopped MSN from buying these technologies, thus forcing Bill Gates & Co. to develop a brand new search engine from scratch.

So, say goodbye to the old search engine landscape dominated by Google, AltaVista, Ask Jeeves and AlltheWeb, and say hello to the new constellation: Google, Yahoo!, Ask Jeeves and (soon to be) the new MSN search engine.
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2004, 10:47:45 AM »

thanks for posting this info 12noon! I've got two newsletters with similar articles and wonder what was the source of this, does Yahoo make some announcment that they not going to keep team of ATW and AV or just some person try to guess what would be next...
In any case I think that this info is correct and reflect things which happen now to AV and ATW, they already stop free inclusion process and I guess next step would be switching from own results to one delivered by Ink or Y! itself Sad This is really sad thing as both those search engines were my favourites and presense of them on the market doesn't let others(mean Google) to sleep well in the night and keep on working on relevancy of SERPs, I've used both of them for my searches and ATW was for a long time my main SE and work really well for this purpose Sad
Hopefully someone would be able to develop some good search technology which would appear on the market soon, as I don't really like idea of seeing Y!, Google and MSN as the only search providers on the web...  Undecided
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