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Question: what you think happen with Google Dance?
I think that it's changing algo to make continuos PR calculation   -3 (60%)
I think it's just delay and it will occur soon   -1 (20%)
I think it's gone for good and somehting new will appear   -1 (20%)
I have my own theory...(please share it with us)   -0 (0%)
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« on: August 11, 2003, 02:05:48 PM »

Recently many people all the time talking about what has happen to Google and why it's not re-calculating backlinks and PageRank... personally I believe that Google changing it's algo to make backlinks and pagerank caluclation to run continuously. At least it seems that ranking is really calculated for about one month already as I see major changes in my position which wasn't appear because of some changes on my pages... so IMHO Google calculated PR and backlinks but doesn't make it publicly available while they are in beta.
what about your opinion do you think Google will dance soon or they changing something?
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2003, 02:58:23 PM »

Personally, I think its a major algorithm change! The spammers are winning and Google must act!! They are testing, re-testing and tweaking! When they are happy, maybe, just maybe we will see the Dance return in the manner we are used too! Maybe Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2003, 04:51:03 PM »

I think it's proabably just a delay, but there must be a reason for that delay, and I guess that is an algorithm change. I hope so, becaquse an algo change has to make Google even beter than they already are.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2003, 05:20:09 PM »

i've been debating on this very for a while. The thing is, google is recalculating search engine position, it's just not assigning page rank or indexing backlinks. I am not sure honestly that they will ever dance again, for the simple reason that i have seen that they can effectivly keep the index up to date on a real time basis. it just simply sends out bots constantly, i get a ton each day. it would be nothing to have these bots index the backlinks as well, thats a very simple command. so it would be highly easy to have some sort of real time google updating of everything, including PR.

Now with that being said, here is another standpoint of mine. I think it would hurt google somewhat if it did this. The dance is a very popular thing around the webmaster comunity. while the general public knows nothing about it, it is still popular. around dance time i've heard google almost doubles their average traffic, all from webmasters checking their position and others. this means money for google, since those people might click through adwords sites, and probably likely do. i think from a public relation standpoint, and a money standpoint it would hurt them. the only real advantage would be the ability to say they have the most up to date content, because others only reindex around every week or every other week.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2003, 05:31:43 PM »

Now with that being said, here is another standpoint of mine. I think it would hurt google somewhat if it did this. The dance is a very popular thing around the webmaster comunity. while the general public knows nothing about it, it is still popular. around dance time i've heard google almost doubles their average traffic, all from webmasters checking their position and others. this means money for google, since those people might click through adwords sites, and probably likely do. i think from a public relation standpoint, and a money standpoint it would hurt them. the only real advantage would be the ability to say they have the most up to date content, because others only reindex around every week or every other week.
yup I think the same way... it's enough to take look on any forum on the web and you'll see that people there mentioning Google Dance in some way... so it's would be serious hit for them if they discontinue this practice...
I also wonder if Google maybe discontinue showing Page Rank at all, I'm not 100% sure but it could be happen so IMHO, since PR could be a useful tool in hand of webmaster or surfer  so as in the hand of some spammer and if they remove PR feature probably some of them will go away... and probably this will make results of Google more relevant since people would link to quality sites they like but not to the sites with high PR.
as for backlinks they probably will appear soon, as I can't believe that they will gone for good.
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2003, 03:07:45 AM »

PR is critical to how they assing placement in the search engine.

and for the record google is dancing once again finnaly
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2003, 10:36:17 AM »

yeah I know it's important but I just guess that it provide also some trobules for them since now people only link to high PR sites and not others so I even a bit happy that PR doesn't showing now... maybe this teach people how to judge about site without Googlebar
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2003, 11:08:28 PM »

You mean the PR ranking thing is over???   Huh
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2003, 06:25:31 AM »

no, it's not over. it's just been a while since a dance, so PR hasn't been calculated in a while, so new sites are not showing it. it will start recalculating here soon
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2006, 06:08:46 PM »

it's seems to happen right now, at least yesterday I've saw PR 6 for WKey, too bad it's return to 5 right now Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2006, 03:47:26 AM »

Sorry to confess my ignorance but as a member of the General Public with my 3 mo. old site, WHAT IS GOOGLE DANCE?   
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2006, 05:52:46 AM »

Aha!    I found my own answer... at least the one shown on the web.

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# The Search Engine Google often updates or process updates to its ranking Algorithm and the Google dance defines the process of the update. Google utilizes 9 data centers that will provide different results until the Google dance update completes its recalculations. When the dance completes the Search Engine Results will show new listings and changes in ranking positioning.
www.intensedevelopment.net/website-design-G.html

But none of the sites I found said anything about the current state of activity or inactivity of the Dance.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2006, 11:25:47 AM »

it's already reported on forums for few days and you can check it yourself using this tool: http://www.mcdar.net/Q-Check/datatool.asp
If results from datacenters would differ that would mean that Google Dance is going on.
BTW I wasn't tracking it for ages as doesn't care much about PR but this time I've spot it because WKey regain PR 6.
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